Drinks with the Girls®

Daughter Lessons: Rewriting the Mother–Daughter Story

This one’s for every woman who’s ever wondered if she was a good enough daughter—or a good enough mom.
Karen and Lisa sit down with attorney, writer, and self-proclaimed Queen Bee, Bernadette Catalana, for a conversation that’s tender, honest, and full of midlife wisdom.
Inspired by her book Daughter Lessons: Wise and Witty Reflections on Leading, Learning From, and Loving Our Daughters, Bernadette opens up about raising two girls, navigating the emotional complexity of mother-daughter relationships, and how writing helped her process grief, aging, and identity. From healing generational wounds to finding herself after the kids left home, Bernadette’s story is a reminder that it’s never too late to reflect, reconnect, and redefine what legacy means.
Pour yourself something cozy—this episode explores:
Letting go of old narratives (and writing new ones)
The surprising grief of launching grown children
Reconnecting with hometown roots (and old heartbreaks)
Keeping the promises we make to ourselves in midlife
The beauty and bravery of sharing our stories—even the hard ones
Whether you’re a mom, a daughter, or someone trying to make peace with both, this conversation will hit you in the heart and stay with you long after the last sip.
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🎙️Guest:
Bernadette Catalanabernadette@daughterlessons.com
https://www.daughterlessons.com/
Daughter Lessons: Wise and Witty Reflections on Leading, Learning From, and Loving our Daughters by Bernadette Catalana
Bernadette on LinkedIn
🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:Pacifico w/LimeDrink Up Witches GlassStella Artois LiberteRosé Wine
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Leaving It All Behind: Midlife Women Who Move Abroad

What if midlife wasn’t the beginning of the end, but the start of your boldest chapter yet—somewhere far, far from home?
In this raw and vibrant episode of Drinks With the Girls, Karen and Lisa talk with three midlife women who traded burnout, people-pleasing, and autopilot living for new lives abroad. We're talking Belize, Italy, and a beach in the Caribbean. Real places. Real stories. Real women who said, “What if I just… left?”
These aren’t polished highlight reels. You’ll hear about the hot flashes that turned into wake-up calls, the packed suitcases filled with fear and hope, and the quiet moments that sparked giant life pivots. One woman healed her asthma, another rediscovered joy through storytelling, and all of them gave themselves permission to live differently.
Whether you’re dreaming of a passport stamp or just desperate to break free from the roles that no longer fit, this episode will leave you feeling empowered, grounded, and deeply seen.
🎧 Perfect for any woman in midlife who’s quietly asking: Is this really it—or could there be more?
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🎙️Guests:
Karen Baskett lives in BelizeShannon Whaley lives in ItalyMegan Mulvihill Elkins lives in Nevis and New York
🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
🍵TizzyCleanTox Tea + Arbonne Energy Fizz#arbonne☕Basic B*tch Coffee🍵CCF Tea
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Dinner Without the Drama: Holiday Edition

'Tis the season to ditch the pressure and keep the connection! In this festive episode of Drinks With the Girls, Karen and Lisa are joined once again by our favorite kitchen goddess, Lisa Potter, for the third installment of our "Dinner Without the Drama" series—this time with a holiday twist.
We're serving up real-talk and real strategies for women in midlife who are over the chaos and ready to reclaim their holiday table. From the art of the “micro-party” to make-ahead mashed potatoes and freezer-friendly gravy (yes, a month ahead), we’re talking about how to host without losing your mind—or your joy.
Whether you’re feeding a full house or just gathering your chosen crew, this episode is packed with practical tips, nostalgic laughs (hello, moldy pretzel ornaments), and the kind of heartfelt conversation that reminds you: it’s not about the perfect spread—it’s about the people around it.
Topics we cover:
Reframing what holiday hosting looks like in midlife
Smart prep tips for stress-free entertaining
Holiday food hacks that actually work
Why it’s okay to say no to the Pinterest pressure
Creating memory-making moments without martyring yourself
So grab a drink (Slice with vodka, anyone?) and pull up a chair—let’s toast to doing the holidays our way.
🔗 Plus: Recipes, tips, and Lisa Potter’s pantry must-haves in the show notes!
Perfect for: women 40+ | midlife moms | empty nesters | holiday hosts | connection seekers
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🎙️Guest:Lisa PotterSmoke Ridge Custom CateringSmokeridgecc.com
🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
Slice - Grapefruit Spritz w/ Vodka - natchPopwell Cherry CitrusCabernet Sauvignon
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The New “F” Word is “Fine”

What if saying “I’m fine” is actually a slow form of self-erasure?
In this honest, hilarious, and deeply validating episode, Karen and Lisa unpack the emotional weight behind the word fine—that autopilot answer women give when they’re juggling too much and feeling too little. From vodka-spiked probiotics to midlife truth bombs about burnout, grief, and holiday perfectionism, nothing is off the table.
You’ll laugh, you’ll nod, and maybe—just maybe—you’ll start to question where you’ve been playing small in the name of keeping the peace.
This one’s for every midlife woman who’s ever smiled through clenched teeth, kept the holiday magic alive solo, or said “I’m fine” when her soul was whispering “I’m not.”
You’ll walk away feeling seen, stirred, and a little more ready to reclaim your joy.
👉 Perfect for anyone who’s tired of faking it, carrying the mental load alone, or ready to stop calling burnout a personality trait.
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🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
Kevita Probiotic Refresher Sparkling Drink - Tangerine
Lisa’s After Bahama Mama Recipe (Podsquad Exclusive! Join here…)
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Karen’s Holiday Divorce Survival Toolkit
WHAT’S INSIDE✦ One laser focused coaching call where you and Karen get clear on what would feel most supportive for you.✦ 4 personalized emails that give you a month of tools and tips✦ A Holiday Scripts Cheat Sheet. Instant confidence at your fingertips.✦ A Personalized  Pep Talk AudioHave her in your back pocket whenever you need to Breathe, Reset, and remember who the f*ck you are.
To take advantage of this offer, book a free call with her here!
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Parenting Empowered: Supporting Your Struggling Child At Any Age

Whether you're navigating toddler meltdowns, school refusal in middle school, or your college kid is spiraling from overwhelm, this one’s for you.
In this honest and heartfelt episode, Karen and Lisa open up about the moments in parenting when everything feels hard—when the systems don’t fit your child, the experts contradict each other, and your own inner critic is the loudest voice in the room.
We’re talking about the times your kid is struggling—socially, emotionally, academically—and the world seems to be judging both of you. From missed milestones to behavior challenges, this conversation will help you feel seen, validated, and more grounded as you parent through it all.
Because here’s the truth: There’s no “right” age for the wheels to fall off, and there’s no timeline for getting support. Whether your child is 3, 13, or 23, you deserve resources, community, and a reminder that you're not alone.
✨ In this episode:
How to stay calm when your kid is in crisis
Dealing with shame, mom guilt & outside judgment
Supporting kids through developmental, behavioral, or mental health struggles
Why traditional parenting advice often fails modern families
Encouragement for every stage: toddlers, tweens, teens, and college-age kids
💬 If you've ever thought, “I’m failing my child,” this one’s for you. You’re not failing—you’re just parenting in real life.
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🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
🍹 Zevia Tea Earl Grey Tea Blood Orange
✨Sparkle Hops
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Lisa's Beat Black Friday Parenting Outside the Lines Megabundle
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The Halloween Episode: Weird Sh*t That Happens When We Age

Grab your favorite mug (preferably one that says I love goats and the word fck*) and cozy up—because in this special Halloween edition of Drinks with the Girls, we're diving into the real-life horror stories of midlife womanhood.
You know the ones:
A black chin hair that shows up in full sunlight
Rogue pubes on your mid-thigh
Eyebrow hairs that disappear… only to reappear somewhere completely inappropriate
Peeing when you sneeze or laugh
Skin tags no one warned you about
Fluffy vaginas (yes, really)
Karen and Lisa spill all the weird, messy, unfiltered truths about what’s happening to their bodies—and probably yours too—and why talking (and laughing) about it is the best medicine.
From hot tips like “keep tweezers in your car” to surprising facts about pelvic floor health, hormone shifts, perimenopause, and the pressure to stay "ageless," this episode is like a girls’ night in with your smartest, funniest, most honest friends.
It’s gross. It’s hilarious. And it’s about damn time someone said it out loud.
This episode is for you if:
You’ve ever screamed at a rogue chin hair in natural light
You're wondering WTF is happening to my ankles?
You’re tired of pretending your body hasn’t changed since 29
You’re ready to drop the shame, the silence, and maybe your pants (because sweatpants are life)
 
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🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
🍵TizzyCleanTox Tea + Arbonne Energy Fizz#arbonne
☕Basic B*tch Coffee
 
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Celebrating the Twins, Pt 4: A Breast Cancer Survivor’s Story w/Guest Amy Bergant

What if the most powerful thing you could offer a loved one during cancer… wasn’t advice or casseroles—but empathy?
In this vulnerable and surprisingly uplifting episode, breast cancer survivor Amy Bergant joins us for a raw conversation about navigating a diagnosis, parenting twin toddlers through chemo, and why she needed people to laugh with her—not pity her.
If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, underseen, or stuck in survival mode, Amy’s story will leave you feeling validated, grounded, and surprisingly empowered.
She opens up about:
How her humor became a survival tool when the world got too heavy
The moment she realized she wanted empathy—not sympathy
What it’s like to grieve your body while also rebuilding your identity
Raising toddlers while tethered to chemo drains
And the surprising sisterhood that showed up for her in ways she never expected
This isn’t a sanitized story of pink ribbons and brave faces. It’s messy, honest healing—from nipple jokes to emotional gut punches—told with the kind of fierce, funny perspective only midlife can bring.
Perfect for any woman who’s tired of being the strong one and wants to feel understood instead.
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Part of our Celebrating the Twins series for Breast Cancer Awareness Month 🩷Guest: Amy Bergant🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
💖Bloom Energy Drinks
💖Rambler Sparkling Water
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Celebrating the Twins , Pt 3: Mitigating Breast Cancer Risk w/Guest Dr. Christine Kollmorgen

In this powerful and practical episode of Drinks With the Girls, Karen and Lisa sit down with Dr. Christine Kollmorgen of Oregon Surgical Wellness to talk all things breast health and cancer prevention. From the truth about exercise and cortisol to how female friendships and managing stress can literally save your life, this conversation is a must-listen for every woman over 40. Dr. Kollmorgen shares research-backed strategies to lower your risk of breast cancer, what to do when your mammogram is "wonky," and how to advocate for yourself in a confusing medical system. Real talk, real science, and real support—because knowledge is power and midlife is the time to take control of your health. 🍷💪💖
Topics We Cover:
The exact exercise formula shown to reduce breast cancer risk
How chronic stress and negative thinking can affect breast tissue
Creating calm, connected care in a breast cancer journey
What to do after a confusing or scary mammogram result
The role of long-term female friendships in overall health
Why self-advocacy in midlife medicine matters more than ever
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🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
🍷Myrtle Creek Cab Franc
✨Lüp Water
✨Spindrift Mango Orange
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Allyship, Sisterhood, & Being a Freaking Human with Guest Bri Martin

What does real allyship look like between women? In this powerful episode of Drinks with the Girls, hosts Lisa and Karen welcome their friend and former colleague, Bri Martin, for an unfiltered, heartfelt conversation about race, gender, identity, and corporate culture. Together, they unpack what it means to show up for each other—not through performative gestures, but by staying human, curious, and connected.
Bri brings both personal and professional wisdom to the table, reflecting on growing up with a disabled mother, navigating corporate America as a Black woman, and the complicated history of how women have been divided by systems designed to keep us apart. With humor, heart, and a fierce desire to create real change, the conversation flows from fall drinks to systemic patriarchy, from childhood memories to the ways women treat each other in the workplace and beyond.
Perfect for midlife women looking for real talk, this episode is a blend of honest storytelling, historical context, and practical insight on allyship, reminding us that we’re more powerful together.****************************************Guest: Bri Martin

🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
Starbies🥤, Apple Cider🍎, and Donut Shop Coffee 🍩☕ #forreals*****************************************
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Book Review: "Buy Yourself the F*cking Lilies"

Karen and Lisa dive into Tara Schuster’s refreshingly raw and hilarious self-help memoir, Buy Yourself the F*cking Lilies. From bath rituals and morning routines to boundary-setting and reparenting our inner child, this conversation is packed with juicy takeaways for every woman navigating midlife.
Expect reflections on why self-care isn’t selfish, how to stop waiting for others to bring you flowers (literally and metaphorically), and the power of choosing yourself—one permission slip, journal entry, or Trader Joe’s bouquet at a time.
Karen and Lisa share their favorite chapters, how the book mirrors their own journeys, and why creating a sanctuary (even if it means ditching the guest room) is an act of rebellion and radical self-love.
Whether you're healing old wounds, trying to reclaim your time, or just need a reminder that you’re a badass goddess, this episode will leave you inspired, laughing, and maybe ready to buy some damn lilies.
👉 Topics we cover:
What is reparenting and why it matters in midlife
Choosing yourself in small but powerful ways
The myth of being "too busy" for joy
Creating sacred space in your own home
The rituals that help us heal, thrive, and reconnect
Grab your favorite drink (hydration counts), hit play, and join us for a conversation that’s equal parts therapy, laughter, and real talk.
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Book: “Buy Yourself the F*cking Lillies” by Tara Schuster
🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:
Straight up H20 🚰
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