Drinks with the Girls

Feminism, Fillers, and Facelifts

Feminism, Fillers, and Facelifts: Exploring Self-Love, Societal Pressure, and the Freedom to Age Your Own Way
In this bold and nuanced episode of Drinks with the Girls, Karen and Lisa dive into the complicated terrain of cosmetic enhancements in midlife—Botox, fillers, facelifts, and everything in between. Can you fight the patriarchy and still want smoother skin? Is it possible to age authentically while also craving a little tweak here and there?
With their signature blend of wit, warmth, and honesty, the hosts tackle the tangled web of beauty standards, internalized ageism, and the judgment women face—from society and from each other. From personal stories to cultural commentary, this episode invites listeners to reflect on where empowerment ends and pressure begins.
Whether you’re considering your first filler or fiercely embracing every wrinkle, this is a judgment-free zone—and a celebration of choice, autonomy, and aging out loud.
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Show Notes:
Guiness Nitro
Episode 37: Brook Shields - Book Review
“Brooke Shields Is Not Allowed To Get Old” by Brooke ShieldsIG: Brook Shields - CALL US BROOKE!📲
 
Renee Zellweger Plastic Surgery Controversy
Not active on Social MediaCALL US Renee!📲
Demi Moore nude with paintIG: CALL US Demi!📲
 
Episode 17 : Breast Reduction
Lisa’s Breast Reduction Vlog
Lisa’s Vegan Collagen Builder - Arbonne Skin Elixir
Alex Light - Body Confidence
Pamela Anderson 
IG: Pamela Anderson
CALL US Pamela!📲
The Last Showgirl
Linda Evangelista Controversy
IG: CALL US Linda! 📲
 
Episode 3: Aging Disgracefully, Pt 1
Episode 4: Aging Disgracefully, Pt 2 
Tyra Banks CALL US Tyra!📲
Naomi CampbellCALL US Naomi!📲
Beverly JohnsonCALL US Beverly!📲
ImanCALL US Iman!📲
Cynthia ErivoCALL US Cynthia!📲
Simone Ashley
CALL US Simone!📲
Charithra ChandranCALL US Charithra!📲
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Unapologetically Silver! Deciding to Go Gray

In this empowering episode of Drinks with the Girls, hosts Karen and Lisa sit down with special guest Natasha Kolehmainen to explore what it truly means to age authentically—especially for women over 40. From embracing gray hair to challenging unrealistic beauty standards, this candid conversation dives into the silver hair movement, midlife self-acceptance, and the power of aging on your own terms.
Natasha shares her personal journey of going gray as a conscious rebellion against the pressure to “stay young” and the costly, time-consuming routines pushed by the beauty industry. Together, the trio opens up about letting go of outdated norms, embracing natural beauty, and confronting the double standards women face compared to men as they age.
Whether you're considering ditching the dye or redefining what aging means to you, this episode offers real talk, inspiration, and actionable encouragement. Discover why going gray is more than a style choice—it’s a radical act of self-love.
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Show Notes:
Guest:
Natasha Kolehmainen is a certified Life and Health Coach helping GenX women who want to release the clutter in their lives, embrace simplicity, and create space for the work, activities and experiences they truly desire. Living an authentic, aligned life is the true GenX flex! 
 
You can sign up for her waitlist for information about future courses and workshops here
You can follow her on Instagram here
Or check out her website here
  
Natasha’s previous guest appearance on the podcast:Episode 35: Decluttering the Decades, Pt. 2: Zen Your Den
Vino Disco
Episode 37: Brook Shields - Book Review
“Brooke Shields Is Not Allowed To Get Old” by Brooke ShieldsIG: Brook Shields - CALL US BROOKE!📲
Episode 3: Aging Disgracefully, Pt 1
Episode 4: Aging Disgracefully, Pt 2 
 
Pamela Anderson IG: Pamela Anderson - CALL US Pamela!📲
 
Episode 17 : Breast ReductionEpisode 23: Gratitude
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Unlocking Your Intuition After 40: Lessons from a Psychic Medium

In this powerful episode of Drinks With The Girls, hosts Karen and Lisa sit down with renowned psychic medium Sally Anne to explore how women can reconnect with and trust their intuition—especially after 40.
Too often, women are conditioned to second-guess their inner knowing. But what if tuning into your gut instinct is the key to clarity, confidence, and personal growth? Sally Anne shares her journey into psychic mediumship, how she developed her intuitive abilities, and what it means to connect with energies beyond the physical world.
Together, we discuss:
Why intuition tends to get louder in midlife
The societal pressures that teach women to ignore their instincts
How psychic readings can offer validation and guidance
Practical ways to nurture and trust your own inner voice
Stories that will make you think, laugh—and maybe get a little chill down your spine
Whether you’re spiritual, skeptical, or just a little curious, this episode is a must-listen for any woman navigating midlife changes, personal reinvention, or simply wanting to feel more in tune.
So pour your favorite drink, settle in, and join the conversation about intuition, connection, and female friendship after 40.
✨ Because trusting yourself is not woo—it’s wisdom.
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Show Notes:
Guest: Sally Anne, Professional Psychic Medium
Facebook
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Screw the Scale: Redefining Fitness On Your Own Terms After 40

Welcome to another inspiring episode of Drinks with the Girls! Today, we're diving deep into a topic that resonates with so many women: health, fitness, and wellness after 40. Join hosts Karen and Lisa as they chat with Kelly Curtis, a seasoned health and fitness expert, about navigating perimenopause, menopause, and the unique challenges women face in midlife.
From the importance of strength training after 40 to the benefits of a high-protein diet and HIIT (high-intensity interval training), this conversation is filled with practical tips and expert advice on how to take control of your health and feel stronger than ever.
Learn how balanced nutrition, exercise, and lifestyle changes can help manage hormonal shifts, boost energy, and improve overall well-being. Plus, we explore the power of community and accountability in staying motivated on your fitness journey.
Whether you're just beginning to prioritize your health or looking to level up your current routine, this episode is packed with motivational insights to help women over 40 thrive. So grab a drink, get comfy, and join us for a real, relatable conversation about midlife fitness, menopause wellness, and taking charge of your body and mind after 40.
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Show Notes:
Little West Juices
Arbonne Dream Tea
Cayenne Cleanse Kombucha
Guest: Kelly Curtis
Fitness & Wellness Coach Life Coach- Your biggest hype woman!Strength and Pilates Coach
Need help getting all that protein in? These are fantastic tasting vegan protein shakes and each serving is 20 grams of protein: Essential Meal Protein
My Fitness Pal App
Infrared Saunas
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Bullying: The New Game of Thrones

In this powerful episode of Drinks with the Girls, hosts Karen and Lisa tackle the widespread issue of bullying—proving it doesn’t end after childhood. From workplace intimidation to online harassment, they explore how bullying affects women over 40 and beyond. Through real-life stories and expert-backed insights, they discuss setting boundaries, handling toxic behavior, and leveraging emotional intelligence to stand strong. With practical strategies and a focus on community support, this episode empowers listeners to navigate and overcome bullying at any stage of life. Tune in for a candid, eye-opening conversation on creating a culture of respect and resilience.
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Show Notes:
Arbonne Green Synergy Elixir
RecessHop Wtr
Neuroscience Episode with Andrea Samadi
Athletic Brewing Non-Alcoholic Beer
The Empowered Parent Collective Launches March 11th - Founders Membership open only through March 18th! 
First Episode: Drinks With the Girls - An Introduction
Mean Girls
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
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Book Review: Brooke Shields Is Not Allowed to Get Old

Buckle up, listeners—this episode is salty, sassy, and straight-up necessary. We’re diving deep into Brooke Shields’ latest book, Brooke Shields Is Not Allowed to Get Old, and let’s just say she is speaking our language. From the ridiculousness of the anti-aging industry to the way society treats women over 40 like they’ve expired, we’re breaking down all the ways this book had us yelling, “YES, THANK YOU.”
We’re talking about confidence, reinvention, and the patriarchal BS that’s been trying to keep us in line since we were eight years old. (Spoiler: It’s not working anymore.) Brooke’s in her “F-it” era, and frankly, so are we.
Plus, we share some of our own midlife revelations, talk about what it means to truly step into our power, and maybe, just maybe, start a grassroots campaign to get Brooke to notice us.
Grab your drink of choice and get ready—this episode is all about owning your next chapter and making damn sure nobody puts midlife women in a corner. Cheers! 🥂
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Show Notes:
Arbonne ImmunityFizz  Vitamin C Fizz Sticks - Rosemary Fig FlavorArbonne Sport Hydration
 
“Brooke Shields Is Not Allowed To Get Old” by Brooke Shields
IG: Brook Shields - CALL US BROOKE!📲
The Good Girl Myth: Why Midlife Women Are No Longer Buying ItWritten By Karen Shatafian
Song: “Confident” by Demi Lovato
Episode 27: Divorce, Dating, and Relationships in Midlife
Commence - Brooke’s Hair Care Line
“Down Came the Rain: My Journey Through Postpartum Depression” by Brooke Shields
“Pretty Baby: Brooke Shields” Documentary
“There Was a Little Girl: The Real Story of My Mother and Me” by Brooke Shields
Episode 5: The 80s, Part 1: More Than 16 Candles
Episode 6: The 80s, Part 2: Karen & Lisa's High School Reunion
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The Empowered Parent Collective: Parenting Unique Kids

In this empowering episode of "Drinks With The Girls," we delve into the complex world of parenting children with unique needs. Hosts Karen and Lisa share candid, heartfelt stories and insights from their own experiences as mothers of children with unique needs. They explore the multifaceted roles parents must assume—therapist, advocate, and emotional coach—while managing their own lives.
Join Karen and Lisa as they tackle the challenges, isolation, and societal judgments faced by parents, while also celebrating the small but significant accomplishments that make the journey worthwhile. This episode offers a supportive community space for parents who feel overwhelmed, providing reassurance that they're not alone. Whether you're in the thick of it or seeking understanding, this conversation is a beacon for those navigating the unpredictable journey of raising kids with special, unique, and tough needs.
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Show Notes:
Vino DiscoArbonne ImmunityFizz  Vitamin C Fizz Sticks - Rosemary Fig FlavorArbonne Sport Hydration
Join the Empowered Parent Collective Waitlist and get more info here!Launching March 11th for founding members through March 18th only
Join my free Empowered Parent Collective Community here
Decluttering Episode Part 2
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Decluttering the Decades, Pt. 2: Zen Your Den

In this insightful episode of Drinks with the Girls, hosts Karen and Lisa engage in a compelling conversation with certified coach Natasha Kolehmainen, who shares her transformative journey of decluttering her home and life. Join us as Natasha reveals the emotional impact and freedom that comes from letting go of clutter, and the profound shift in mindset that follows.
Natasha takes us through her personal experience of feeling suffocated by her living space, leading to the decision to embrace the "nuclear option" and radically simplify her environment. Through vivid storytelling, she highlights the importance of understanding our relationship with possessions and how decluttering can pave the way for personal growth and new beginnings.
Listeners will discover practical strategies for purging unnecessary items, the science behind how clutter affects our mental well-being, and the steps to maintain a clutter-free, restorative home. Natasha also shares valuable tips on navigating decluttering with family members who may have different perspectives on clutter. This episode is packed with inspiration and actionable insights to help you create a space that truly supports your life journey.
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Show Notes:
Guest:
Natasha Kolehmainen is a certified Life and Health Coach helping GenX women who want to release the clutter in their lives, embrace simplicity, and create space for the work, activities and experiences they truly desire. 
You can sign up for the waitlist for the Midlife Purge course, find out more about her Zen Your Den workshop and check out all her juicy details here!
And, you can follow her IG here!
Smith College
 
Previous Decluttering Episode:
The Art of Letting Go: Decluttering the Decades
 
Carrie Powell - Method Seattle IG Account
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Ode to Midlife Valentines

Join Lisa and Karen on this special Valentine-themed episode of "Drinks With The Girls" as they delve into the intricacies of midlife relationships. With special guests, Tony and Martin, they explore how love evolves as we age, balancing fierce independence with acts of service and support. Discover the stories of laughter, small gestures, and the adventure of finding love after past experiences.
In this engaging conversation, the hosts and their partners reflect on lessons learned from previous relationships, the importance of laughter, and embracing the differences that make each partnership unique. They share candid discussions on parenting, overcoming challenges, and the thrilling prospect of romantic adventures on their bucket lists.
Tune in to hear how these women are redefining love in midlife, celebrating connections that are built on vulnerability, understanding, and genuine companionship. Be inspired by their journey of friendship, empowerment, and creating a meaningful community for women navigating midlife transitions.
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Show Notes:
Arbonne Sport Hydration
Four Sigmatic Coffee
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Wide Awake: No Sleep Till Brooklyn

Welcome to Drinks with the Girls, where Karen and Lisa, two moms and solopreneurs, dive into real conversations for women in midlife. In this episode, they explore the importance of sleep, which goes beyond beauty rest and touches on health, mood, and longevity.
Discover the concept of 'revenge bedtime procrastination,' a phenomena affecting many women as they seek downtime at the expense of sleep. Learn about the impact of menopause, stress, and lifestyle choices on sleep quality, and gather practical tips for creating better sleep habits.
Join the discussion on managing hormones, creating sleep sanctuaries, and the importance of consistent sleep schedules and stress management. Tune in for relatable stories, expert insights, and empowering advice tailored for women over 40 navigating the journey of life.
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Show Notes:
Grab some Green Synergy Elixir & TrueSport Hydration here!
Animal Episode
Maria Shriver’s Sunday Paper
"Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity" by Bill Gifford and Peter Attia
Dr. Mary Claire Havers "The Galveston Diet: The Doctor-Developed, Patient-Proven Plan to Burn Fat and Tame Your Hormonal Symptoms"
Revenge Bedtime Procrastination
US Surgeon General Alcohol Cancer Warning
SleepWell Spray
App: InSight Timer
"Why We Can't Sleep: Women's New Midlife Crisis" by Ada Calhoun
“No Sleep Till Brooklyn” by the Beastie Boys
Weighted Blanket Crochet Patterns
Podcast: Sleep Meditation for Women
Calm App: Sleep Stories
Garnet Hill Bedding
Cozy Earth Pajamas
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